ok check this. real simple. part of Art  and Design is the ability to take what  is around u and "amplify" an emotion,  or vibe. The ability to communicate and  express an idea. just wanted to state  this before i said how screwed up,  stupid, and senseless this photo  copyright crap is. its one thing to ban  a skilled designer for stealing a  personal photo peice. its another thing  to ban an artist who utilizes a photo  that was already fucked with by another  designer at some design agency to make  it look good. good pics from a mag, a  training designer can't use to make  art? yea sure, screw her face over,  make her look like some fuck and yea  its cool. we call that photo mip right?  but "nooooooo don't dare to keep the  photographers orignal shot and design  around it!!! "dear god no!" we got alot  of envious ppl here at da, and fuckin  haters, thats it. GROW UP. design is  design, don't salt the flavor.